20/20 is also known as buckram in some countries. It is stiff and softens with water or steam. Very useful for a foundation to make a fabric covered hat. Make sure NOT to wash the stiffing out. Work with the tips of your fingers.

Veiling needs to look light and fluffy as if it just got put there. Only needs to be held in some spots.

The https://millineryhub.com.au/ always stocked this material. You can spray it with design master after you made the hat. When using for a trim spray before. Gold and silver look really good when sprayed.